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smoking bans = banning freedom http://ur1.ca/9j3b8 I agree, because next will be your drinks
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I disagree, because I can't breathe in your beer by being nearby. Can't view the video because I'm at work, though. :(
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@windigo I disagree with your disagreement. Banning in restaurants, bars, sure. But they're going way too far.
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What level of ban does the video discuss?
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@windigo but the argument of being among drunk people can take the place
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@gabrielsaldana I agree with the more nuanced point that the owner of the premises should be able to set smoking/non-smoking policy.
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@windigo I often try to inhale other peoples beer :p unfortunately they take offence to that :(
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@gabrielsaldana there's a bizarre argument that that bars/restaraunts want to be "forced" to ban smoking so they don't get blamed for it.
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@windigo I haven't seen the video, but there have been bans in wide open spaces and in people's homes.
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@kevingranade I think it should be like with the dressing code. Some have it, some don't, and one chooses where to go
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Yeah, I disagree with that level of ban; as long as there's no risk of secondhand smoke, people can harm themselves as much as they want. :)
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It does get trickier if public healthcare is involved... but I don't think we're there yet.
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No, I don't think so; people being drunk around me doesn't impact my health (unless of course they physically impact me, that is. :)
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@windigo what I say is, if you don't want a smoke atmosphere, choose to go to where there's no smoking allowed. But not force it on everyone
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@windigo Totally.
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While I'd agree with the spirit of that, I think that there are circumstances, ie: employees, that make that unrealistic.
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That said, I think things like "smoking rooms" should definitely be allowed, but currently aren't with the NYS ban.
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@gabrielsaldana couldn’t a polluting factory use this same argument ;)
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@gabrielsaldana In Spain the owners could decide (bars) and almost all of them went smoking, now have changed the law and is forbidden.
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@windigo @johnnynull I ban smoking in my home, do I hate freedom?
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It's your home. #silly
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Maybe not for the smoking ban, but the insistence on sub-dermal RFID tracking is a little much. :)
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@windigo IOU one witty reply to that. I just don't have one right now.
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That's okay, you know where to find me. :D
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